yantrikdb-server/docs/phase3c

⚠️ METHODOLOGY CORRECTION (2026-04-19)

The C_structured condition in this writeup used memory_sim.py — a Python list of (key, value, session) tuples with Dice word-overlap retrieval. It is NOT yantrikdb. It has no embeddings, no HNSW, no think() loop, no multi-signal scoring, no conflict scan. Calling this condition "structured memory" in the original writeup was misleading.

A Phase 3E rerun with the actual yantrikdb HTTP server (client-side MiniLM embeddings + /v1/recall multi-signal scoring + /v1/think between sessions) produced materially different numbers: overall score 0.584 → 0.850, stale-rate 0.40 → 0.20, C now BEATS D markdown by 18 points. See ../phase3e/ for the rerun.

Do not cite the numbers below without the Phase 3E correction. This writeup is preserved for audit trail only.

Credit to the project's maintainer for catching that the simulator wasn't yantrikdb during consultation.

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Phase 3C — memory probe with supersession, alias, and indirect retrieval pressure

Question: does structured memory (key/value + retrieval) beat a plain rolling markdown file as an LLM's across-session working memory?

Designed to break the ceiling from Phase 3A/3B — where all three notebook conditions hit 100% because the tasks were too small and well-formed. This time the task is hostile to brute-force carry-forward:

• 5 sessions of narrative, ~9000 chars total
• 5 supersession chains (value stated session N, revised session M>N)
• 3 branch-indirect probes (query doesn't name the retrieval key)
• 2 alias-collision probes (Project Aurora vs Aurora-lite; hard budget vs target budget)
• 10 plausible distractors woven in
• Self-note (B) capped at 1500 chars, rewritten each session (forced compression)
• Markdown (D) capped at 7500 chars with top-truncation (so session-1 facts eventually drop out of the window)

Pre-registration design rationale from the GPT-5.4 redteam brainstorm in ../../.claude/brainstorm-archive/phase3c-design-bbfa9170.md (session bbfa9170-5393-4db9-9d2f-a68745e18500).

Setup

Model: Qwen 3.6 MoE 36B Q4 via Ollama, think:false, num_ctx 32k, temperature 0.3. 2× RTX 3090 Ti local.

Scenario: scenario/sessions.json — 5 weekly sessions of a fictional Titan Industries cloud migration consulting engagement. 15 probes with structured ground truth.

Conditions (n=2 per condition — tight sample size, pre-declared):

	mechanism
A_cold	no sessions, no memory — Qwen answers probes blind
B_self_note	rewrites a ≤1500-char note each session, hard-truncated if over
C_structured	calls remember(key, value) ≤15× per session, recall(query) per probe; word-overlap retrieval (Dice similarity), top-k=5
D_markdown	each session narrative appended to a rolling markdown file, global 7500-char cap with top-truncation

Crucial methodology note

Condition C uses a plain structured-memory simulator, NOT yantrikdb. The simulator stores (key, value, session) tuples and returns top-k by word overlap. No temporal validity, no polarity, no supersession logic. This is deliberate: the question is "does generic structured key/value + retrieval beat markdown?" If it does, integrating yantrikdb is justified. If yantrikdb wants to claim a bigger advantage than plain structured memory, that's a separate test with its own pre-registered criteria.

Results (n=2 per condition, 15 probes each)

cond	overall	answer_acc	provenance	sup_acc	stale_rate	alias_acc	direct	branch	ctx_chars
A_cold	0.000	0.0%	0.0%	0.0%	10.0%	0.0%	0.0%	0.0%	0
B_self_note	0.383	63.3%	21.6%	80.0%	0.0%	25.0%	60.0%	66.7%	1500
C_structured	0.584	60.0%	93.8%	50.0%	40.0%	50.0%	60.0%	83.4%	4983
D_markdown	0.667	73.3%	81.8%	100.0%	0.0%	0.0%	60.0%	100.0%	7500

Raw data: results.json · scored.json Log: harness_log.txt

Scoring rubric

Per probe: 1.0 if answer correct + provenance session correct; 0.5 if answer correct but provenance wrong or missing; 0.0 wrong answer. Supersession subset: stale-answer patterns (the prior-but-superseded value) scored as wrong AND tracked as stale_error. Alias subset: confusion patterns (the wrong entity in the collision pair) tracked as alias_confusion.

What actually happened

1. Plain structured memory does NOT win overall — markdown wins

D (rolling markdown, 7500-char cap) took the highest answer accuracy (73.3%), supersession accuracy (100%), and branch-indirect accuracy (100%). This is not surprising: the markdown top-truncation effectively drops older sessions from the window, which means only the latest values for superseded facts remain visible — Qwen has nothing stale to pick.

But markdown has one catastrophic failure mode that C dodges:

2. Markdown loses alias disambiguation at 0/4

The two alias probes (Project Aurora's $2.4M budget — NOT Aurora-lite's $120K; the $4.8M hard budget — NOT the $4.2M target) were stated in session 1, which got truncated out of D's rolling window by session 5. D answered "UNKNOWN" or mentioned the wrong value on all 4 alias probes across 2 runs. C nailed 50% of them, B nailed 25%. A nailed 0%.

This is the dark side of top-truncation as a markdown strategy: long-lived facts that happened to be stated early drop off the history.

3. Plain structured memory has a catastrophic failure mode too: 40% stale-error rate

C stores remember("titan.go_live", "target go-live Q3 2026", session=1) in session 1, then remember("titan.go_live", "go-live pushed to Q4 2026", session=3) in session 3. When Qwen recalls "current go-live date", the store returns both values. Qwen sometimes picks the stale one.

Across the 5 supersession probes, C produced stale answers on 40% of them — actively wrong, not merely uncertain. B and D produced 0% stale errors (B because rewriting drops old values; D because truncation drops old sessions).

This directly validates the need for yantrikdb's RFC 006 temporal validity substrate. Plain key/value + retrieval is not enough. A structured-memory system with first-class support for claim succession — where "session 3's go-live value supersedes session 1's" is a primitive — would close this gap. My simulator deliberately doesn't have that so this gap is visible.

4. C wins cleanly on provenance (+72 pts vs B, +12 vs D)

The structured store tracks session per memory for free. B has to annotate session numbers by hand in its ≤1500-char note and mostly doesn't (and when it does, it attributes everything to "session 5" because by then the note is a mushy aggregate). D has each session demarcated in the markdown but Qwen doesn't always look up from the quoted text.

C's 93.8% provenance accuracy given a correct answer is the cleanest win in the matrix. In enterprise/audit scenarios where "what did we say, when?" matters as much as "what do we say now?", this is load-bearing.

5. Context cost ordering is A < B < C < D

cond	final ctx chars	ratio vs C
A	0	-
B	1500	0.30×
C	4983	1.00×
D	7500	1.50×

C uses 1.5× less context than D at roughly tied answer accuracy. At long-horizon scale (10+ sessions), this ratio widens because D's truncation loses exponentially more while C's retrieval stays selective.

Pre-registered falsification outcome

Loud-win criteria were defined before the run:

criterion	met?
C beats max(B,D) by ≥15 pts on overall answer acc	NOT MET: C 60% vs max(B,D) 73.3% → Δ = -13.3 pts
C beats max(B,D) by ≥20 pts on supersession acc	NOT MET: C 50% vs 100% → Δ = -50 pts
C beats min(B,D)'s stale-rate by ≥20 pts	NOT MET: C 40% vs 0% → Δ = -40 pts

Loud win: no. Quiet wins: provenance advantage (+72 vs B, +12 vs D); alias-disambiguation advantage (+25 vs B, +50 vs D); 1.5× context-cost advantage vs D.

Honest interpretation

• The experiment was genuinely discriminative — unlike 3A/3B, no condition ceilinged, and each condition has a distinct failure signature.
• D (rolling markdown) is a STRONGER baseline than I expected when the supersession pattern is "late overrides early" and the 7500-char window happens to drop the stale values. D's 100% supersession accuracy is an artifact of top-truncation, not structured reasoning.
• D collapses on alias because the alias definitions were in session 1 (outside the window). A hostile scenario that put enduring facts in session 1 and alias pairs spread across sessions would favor C more.
• The specific 40% stale rate for C IS the product claim. Plain structured memory without temporal logic is actively harmful on supersession. YantrikDB's RFC 006 (temporal succession) and RFC 008 (contest state, polarity-aware) exist for this reason. The next test should be C_structured_plain vs C_yantrikdb_temporal — if yantrikdb's temporal substrate drops the stale rate from 40% to single digits, that's the product's concrete value proposition.

What this means for the yantrikdb product

Before Phase 3C: the claim was "structured memory beats plain text notes." Phase 3C says that's false for plain key/value stores against a well-tuned markdown dump at this scale.

After Phase 3C: the sharper claim is "yantrikdb's temporal/polarity substrate (RFC 006/008) beats both markdown AND plain structured memory on supersession-heavy workloads". That's a narrower but more defensible claim — and it's directly testable with a Phase 3D that plugs in real yantrikdb.

The provenance win is also real and quieter: 94% provenance accuracy makes C the right choice for audit-heavy use cases right now, even before the temporal substrate is integrated.

Honest limits

• n=2 per cell. The loud-win thresholds (±15/±20 pts) were calibrated for the results to survive sample variance, but 2 runs is not enough to estimate reliable CIs.
• One model (Qwen 3.6 MoE Q4). A larger or differently-aligned model would likely pick stale-vs-current answers differently.
• Plain structured memory simulator uses Dice-similarity retrieval. Swapping in TF-IDF or real embeddings may change C's numbers non-trivially; that should be tested before integrating yantrikdb.
• The scenario's supersession pattern is always "later overrides earlier" — hostile to older baselines (favors recency-truncation naturally). A scenario with "retraction" or "conditional supersession" would probably stress yantrikdb's substrate more.
• Scoring uses substring pattern matching on model output. Some false positives and negatives are possible; per-probe raw text is stored in results.json for audit.

Next experiment

Phase 3D (proposed): re-run C with real yantrikdb, using claim_with_lineage (RFC 008) and temporal validity windows for supersession-typed memories. Pre-register: yantrikdb must reduce C's stale-rate from 40% to ≤10% at equal-or-better answer accuracy for the substrate to earn its complexity.

If yantrikdb can't hit that bar, the RFC 006/008 investment has not yet bought what was claimed; if it can, Phase 3C → 3D is the first clean empirical story for the product.